Teen cheater dismisses cheating and threats as a “kid joke,” but Bungie is unfazed in court

Destiny 2’s aggressive approach to fraud and cheaters doesn’t stop at minors. This was shown by the case of “LL”, who was sued by Bungie in July 2022 for the equivalent of 135,900 euros. His attempt the suit as a “kid joke” and legally allowed fending off, Bungie impressed little. In fact, he only made it worse.

Which case is it? Twitch streamer MiffysWorld was a passionate Destiny 2 player who attempted to rig the game using cheats and cheats. He’s bypassed multiple Bungie bans and has also live streamed himself cheating in Destiny 2.

In 2022, he was finally sued by Bungie for the equivalent of 135,900 euros. Ten days after filing the lawsuit, MiffysWorld’s attorney then told the court that his client was indeed a minor child and Bungie’s lawsuit hysterical may be.

But despite its young age, Bungie continues as usual and even ups the ante.

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Opposite side argues: “Child joke” and “fraud is not illegal”

After it was revealed that the accused player is 17 years old, the teenager’s real name was dropped from the case and replaced with the initials “LL” instead. So his young age didn’t change Bungie’s decision to hold him accountable.

Teen Cheater Hires Lawyer From Cheat Vendor: Incidentally, the accused “LL” hired the same defense for his case as the cheat provider AimJunkies, which Bungie had already complained about.

Presumably, because in the case against AimJunkies, attorney Philip P. Mann of Mann Law Group PLLC, was already extremely aggressive in effectively countering Bungie’s allegations. In the end, Bungie won the lawsuit and was awarded €4 million in compensation from AimJunkies.

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He is now also representing the case of the minor “LL” and immediately showed that he is planning an equally aggressive approach here.

For example, the attorney for “LL” argued that Bungie’s complaint should be dismissed because the developer was “hysterical” and his underage client had done nothing illegal with his fraud.

This is another in a series of ill-considered, baseless lawsuits filed by Bungie Inc. as part of a widely publicized campaign to make scammers and those who support them aware that Bungie has no tolerance for cheating in Destiny 2 and also will not tolerate.

Regardless of what Bungie ‘tolerates’ in relation to the actions of others, formal legal proceedings such as this case are governed by the law, not Bungie’s wishes.

Mann writes in a motion to dismiss the lawsuit, alluding to the dramas of potential violence, arson and other criminal conduct to which Bungie is referring in the lawsuit

Other reasons he gives for the rejection are:

  • As a minor, “LL” has the right to withdraw from any contract within a reasonable time after coming of age. Coincidentally, he had already voided all contracts with Bungie.
  • Likewise, the attorney noted that “Congress has not at this time chosen to [Betrug] to be declared unlawful”.
  • And the Bungie and arson comments would be an obvious “kid joke,” First Amendment free speech.
  • Possibly the defendant only made things worse with his objections

    In a filing objection motion, Bungie agreed and said the court could dismiss all of its claims related to the LSLA (Limited Software License Agreement).

    However, since there was no license, Bungie said that downloading and playing Destiny 2 is also copyright infringement.

    By rejecting the LSLA (Limited Software License Agreement) and declaring it null and void from the start, “LL” has affirmed this.

    Bungie said briefly

    Thus, his decision to void the license agreement through his reasoning will result in Bungie filing an amended complaint that will include additional copyright infringement claims and that will then also address any unlicensed activities by the Destiny 2 player.

    This means that every time “LL” got banned and then signed up for a new account, he agreed to Bungie’s limited software license agreement without intending to comply. If he hadn’t crushed the LSLA himself, these activities would have been allowed.

  • Bungie is now charging approximately $2,500 for each incident, citing violations of DMCA anti-circumvention rules.
  • This decision may leave ‘LL’ in a worse position than before.
  • In addition, Bungie countered the statement of the opposing lawyer with:

    Cheating may not be illegal, but without circumvention, this type of scam would not exist.

    countered Bungie the testimony of opposing counsel the court largely follows Bungie’s reasoning

    Failed to downplay anti-cheat policy: As expected, the court dismissed Bungie’s claim for breach of contract related to the Limited Software License Agreement.

    But Bungie’s arguments in support of its copyright infringement lawsuit were described by the judge as “strong.”

  • Cheat software “transformed Destiny 2 by manipulating the software to add visuals that were overlaid on top of the original in-game visualizations,” and since “LL” did not have permission from Bungie, this is an unauthorized derivative work .
  • Attempts by the defense to downplay the anti-cheat provision in the LSLA also failed. Any use of cheating software in Destiny 2 was announced in the Limited Software License Agreement as grounds for immediate termination of “LL’s” license.

    Taken as a whole, the law clearly states that avoiding or circumventing a technological measure violates the DMCA. Therefore, the court denied the defendant’s motion [L.L.] abstains from dismissing the lawsuit for circumvention of technical aspects.

    stated District Judge Richard A. Jones

    With the case still ongoing, the court has now asked Bungie to file its first amended complaint.

    The conclusion from this case is clear: Cheating and cheating in video games may not always be illegal, but it can still have serious consequences. Even if you’re still a minor.

    And Bungie is taking the legal route against cheaters with the utmost determination, which may lead to other game developers considering official lawsuits against cheaters in the future.

    What do you say about the case? Do you think Bungie is actually too hysterical about the activities of a minor? Or do you think this is exactly the right way to deal with scammers, even if they are only 17 years old? And do you think Bungie’s efforts can make a difference or make a difference? Leave your opinion on this topic in the comments.

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