His partner Marlies does not leave his side. As they leaf through the scrapbooks from the past together, they talk about the old performances before the big success. In Amersfoort, Zeist and Leusden. She reads out what it says and Robert supplements it with great detail with his memories. On one of the pages there is a small black and white photo with a caption. “That’s the first time I performed,” he says. “As a little boy for Sinterklaas.”