A confrontation between Twitch streamers and the boss of the esports team 100 Thieves, Matthew “Nadeshot” Haag (30), has boiled up on Twitter and Twitch. Both sides raise accusations against the other side. But what is it actually about?
These are the parties involved: The dispute consists of two parties:
What are the allegations?
Streamer tweets his salary at 100 Thieves while drunk
How did the conflict start? The conflict began when streamer Froste tweeted drunk. At 9:30 a.m. German time, in the middle of the night in the USA, he wrote (via twitter):
I miss the mob house. Imagine where we would be now if we hadn’t had to worry about where our next meal would come from. Could have done great things, will probably never know now.”
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When asked, Froste explained how little money he made from 100 Thieves. He later said he was “drunk tweeting.”
Nadeshot is not unknown on Twitch and has even been the target of a hack:
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Salary too low to pay the rent
These are the backgrounds: Froste is a Twitch streamer, YouTuber, and co-founder of The Mob, a content creators group. The Mob was signed by esports organization 100 Thieves in 2019 and at the time consisted of 4 content creators (Froste, Mako, Classify and Avalanchd).
In this Twitter post, 100 Thieves announced their collaboration with The Mob:
Froste says: 100 Thieves paid too little, money was already spent on the rent
These are Froste’s allegations: The organization 100 Thieves is said to have brought the four creators to LA, where the organization has its headquarters. There, they lived in a house that Froste said rented for $10,000 a month. Each of the four creators would have had to pay $2,500 a month in rent.
Froste also states that the four of them received only $2,500 in salary from the 100T, with only about $1,650 left after taxes — not enough to pay $2,500 in rent, bills, and food.
Building on this, Froste adds that the four Creators sometimes had to skip whole meals or asked their parents for money because they couldn’t afford food.
Another allegation from Froste is that the group couldn’t have just moved to another house because their contract stipulated that they had to live 10 to 15 minutes away from the 100T content house. (via Twitter).
Nadeshot: “You weren’t working.”
Nadeshot replies: The founder of the 100T, Nadeshot, addresses the allegations in a stream and in turn claims that the four did not work. Nadeshot goes on to say that the 100T paid the group’s salary, handled deals, brought the four to LA and they just weren’t productive.
Jake Lucky shared the relevant excerpt from the Nadeshot stream on Twitter. You can see the post here:
On top of that, Nadeshot says there was an option to move into a house that would have been financially viable for the four of them, but they chose to stay in the 100T house.
Froste countered the 100Thieves boss’s allegations that the group wasn’t working by claiming that the internet at the house only allowed one of the creators to live stream for the first 4 months (via Twitter).
Furthermore, according to Froste, it was also clear to the viewers that live streams with the house’s Internet were very difficult (via Twitter).
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Anger about sponsor deals
Were there any other allegations? Froste also accuses 100 Thieves of keeping 95% of revenue through sponsorship deals (via Twitter).
For his part, Nadeshot states that by contract, the 100 Thieves would receive 85% of the revenue from deals engineered by the organization for the content creators group.
Nadeshot then adds that 100T gave the group three sponsorship deals and The Mob kept 65% of the sponsorship money in two of those three deals.
How is the situation now? It’s tricky because both sides see themselves as right and accuse the other side of misrepresenting the situation.
Nadeshot explains how much he did for Froste, but it didn’t bring many viewers, despite the support.
These are the 100 Thieves: The 100 Thieves is an esports organization founded in 2015 by former Call of Duty pro Matthew ‘Nadeshot’ Haag.
The Los Angeles-based organization owns teams in various esports titles, including League of Legends, Call of Duty, and Valorant, among others.
What do you say about the situation? Do you think that the group “The Mob” was not treated fairly by the 100 Thieves and the allegations are serious? Write it to us here on MeinMMO in the comments!
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