He investigates whether it is something for him and it turns out to be so. “I have been doing it for fourteen years with great pleasure and passion.” That is why he is also positive about the municipality’s plan to allow home sex work in Utrecht. Sometimes he finds the discussion a bit exaggerated, but he also understands it. “Before I started, I thought it was a shady world. What kind of people are on your doorstep? Are they antisocial, dirty, rude? I had to adjust that image very much. They are very normal people who come your way.”