The Weekly Reset brought Destiny 2’s Iron Banner event rework and the Rift PvP mode. After an already weak start to the current Season 17, the guardians were hoping for a breath of fresh air. But when that didn’t happen, the frustration caused some extremely angry reactions from some players. MyMMO tells you what happened.
What has the community criticized? After just a few matches in “Rift”, it was clear to many: That’s no fun! PvP would play worse than control or other activities that used to be part of Iron Banner.
Liana Ruppert, Bungie’s community manager, just posted another, more detailed statement on the incidents on Twitter.
In it, she revisits the hateful comments, arguing that many studios have a strict “no talk” policy with social media precisely because of player behavior like this.
Many of the things Destiny players are asking for are already in the works but cannot be discussed yet due to things changing, plans failing, or sometimes just not making sense anymore.
As for the Bungie team, however, we will continue to take player feedback and continue discussions about the future.
You can read the full feedback from the community managers on Twitter.
Some players were correspondingly frustrated and angry. Others, however, shared potential improvements with Bungie, such as:
The Destiny 2 community managers took notice of the guardians on Twitter and reddit, as well as in the official Bungie forum, asked for further points of criticism, answered questions and also gave helpful tips.
Including not only Dylan “dmg04” Gafner, the Senior Community Manager, but also Liana “Hippy” Ruppert, Bungie’s newest Community Manager.
Player frustration turns into pure hate: But what was initially just pure criticism of a gameplay mode later turned into insults and the worst hostilities towards Bungie and its employees.
This became known when Liana “Hippy” Ruppert drew the consequences of the physical threats against her on Twitter. She reports threats and “honestly disgusting” insults.
Obviously, at this point, parts of the Destiny 2 community had already clearly crossed the line between constructive criticism of a game and pure hatred through personal frustration and anger.
Liana Ruppert continues in a recent Twitter post: “These are not “mean words”, […] I don’t care. It’s the ones who followed me and took me to the hospital, the pictures of dead women that were sent to my address and so much more.”
After the community manager’s post, it was understandable that many Destiny 2 players felt the need to openly distance themselves from the behavior of such toxic threats.
As does the player wtfixur who tweets:
The people who work hard to make our favorite games deserve respect, and those who support players even more so. It’s perfectly acceptable to have complaints about the game: however, address them in a respectful manner through the proper channels. Separate [Personen] Attacking is NEVER okay.
posted wtfixur via twitter
And the Destiny 2 player PDark also comments questioningly on Twitter:
The sheer rage that people can evoke in the face of… bugs in a video game that burns so bright and hot that it needs to be directed at the staff of that game is unbelievable. Just how do they do it? How can they get so angry and toxic?
posts PDark on Twitter
Destiny 2 between constructive PvP criticism and pure hate
Some players have been dissatisfied with Bungie and the content provided in Destiny 2 for a long time. Your criticism does not only refer to the currently available content and the activities of the current Season 17, which are disappointing for some keepers.
The current problems of “Rift” in the Eisenbanners have awakened old emotions in some players that may have been pent up for years.
The fact is that most of the community is now so toxic and ungrateful that no matter what Bungie does, it’s all wrong anyway […]. I don’t understand people who say “Bungie has been screwing up everything since Shadowkeep”. “Bungie has been screwing everything up since D2”. As if you play a game for 5 years just to hate it. Then the game lefts and frees the servers.
as the player Enco comments on MeinMMO
The incident also shows a growing problem that goes beyond Destiny 2 and that has existed for years: Both game developers and their employees have to accept personal insults, hostility or even threats in their work more and more often.
Frustrations are one thing, but the current discourse about the new Rift mode couldn’t be further from being productive.
User First put it aptly.
MeinMMO already drew attention to this increasing problem in gaming in 2018.
Game developers are fed up – and it’s our fault!
What’s next for Rift mode?
Bungie has already announced that it will address the above and other player criticisms of Iron Banner and the Rift PvP mode as soon as possible. Whether that is enough for the players remains to be seen. However, should Bungie announce specific fixes or changes here, we will inform you.
Dylan Gafner (dmg04), Senior Community Manager, also wrote on Twitter: “We listen” is always the first step when asking for feedback.”
Bungie wants to use the next few days until the weekly reset on June 7th to follow the constructive and further feedback from the players while working on the already known problems.
The community manager also points out that the newly integrated Rift mode will have a “learning curve” in Destiny 2 and “defeating enemies is just a small piece of the puzzle.”
What do you say to the hate of the community? Do you guys join and Destiny 2 isn’t a place you want to be? Or do you believe in the Destiny universe and trust that Bungie will find workable solutions for the players and that abysmal hatred makes no sense? We would love to read your opinions on this topic in the comments.