His role doesn’t quite match reality, Herben thinks. “But that’s not so bad. The screenwriter wants to portray something and I am a good bourgeois man. And that’s right, I’m a good bourgeois man. But what I pay attention to is the afterthought: someone who is a good bourgeois man is also dull and narrow-minded. Well, then you really never understood me. I am anything but that. Someone who is boring and narrow-minded will not work for Fortuyn either. A controversial man at the time. Not only politically but he was also outspoken gay.”