Ukraine, which is trying to repel a Russian offensive against its territory, launched an armed incursion of unprecedented scale a few days ago in the border region of Kursk. Russia announced on Monday, August 12, that it was extending the civilian evacuation zone where more than 76,000 people have already been evacuated, according to the authorities who are reacting slowly. Interview with Thibault Fouillet, scientific director of the Institute of Strategy and Defense Studies at Jean Moulin University Lyon 3, author of “War in the 21st Century” published by Rocher.