Suspicious of the 15-year-old’s words in interrogation

A 15-year-old boy and a 20-year-old man are suspected of murdering gang leader Ismael Abdo’s mother in Uppsala.

In questioning, the boy admits to large parts of the process.

– I didn’t want to be part of something like that, I didn’t want to witness a murder, he says.

On 6 September last year, a 58-year-old woman was shot to death in Uppsala. She was the mother of Ismail “Strawberry” Abdo who ended up in a conflict with Foxtrot leader Rawa “Kurdish Fox” Majid.

The murder was the starting point for the autumn’s bloody wave of violence in which a large number of people were killed.

At 6 p.m. on September 4, a then 19-year-old man traveled by train to Uppsala, a city he had no connection with.

Two days later, a 15-year-old boy arrived to join him. A 15-year-old who is suspected of having sought a violent assignment from criminals.

Both defendants are now suspected of the woman’s murder.

Narrates in interrogation

In an interrogation with the police in February, several months after the murder and the boy’s arrest, he tells about large parts of the sequence of events.

The interrogators pull out Google Maps and ask him to point out the route they took. The 15-year-old takes a look at the screen, then he describes the course of events carefully and seems to remember both roads and areas well.

The interrogator then asks the 15-year-old to show how he and the 19-year-old have gone.

– Okay, I just want to look around a bit on the map and see if I recognize myself. This is what I remember seeing, exactly that, says the 15-year-old.

He then says that he and the 19-year-old drove a cross to the murder scene and points out their route on a map.

– One thing I remember is that we went to this roundabout and then we drove normally on the motorway and we stopped here, and I think he checked the map but we continued and I think we drove the wrong way, he says.

“Didn’t want to go along anymore”

He then tells how they dumped the vehicle and how he stood and waited a good distance from the house where the woman lived.

Then he says he heard a gunshot echo across the street.

– I didn’t want to be part of something like that, I didn’t want to witness a murder. If I had stayed a little closer, I would have been able to both see and hear, and I didn’t want to, and as I said, I heard both a shot and a woman screaming, and it’s still far away, he says.

– I stopped and said I didn’t want to come along anymore.

Flee from the scene

He then says that he waited for a while before the 19-year-old returned with a weapon in his hand.

– I don’t remember exactly, but maybe a couple of minutes. Then he came back and he ran and we jumped on the cross. Then he came back and he ran and we jumped on the cross.

– How do you know he had a weapon with him to the scene?, the police ask him.

– I saw it clearly in his trouser pocket. I saw a weapon shaped object and I know what it looks like. Something black was sticking out of his pocket, it wasn’t the piston but it was probably the magazine sticking out, the boy answers.

He then describes how they fled the scene.

– This is the escape route, I am one hundred percent. I am absolutely sure, that is the exact way. I remember the fence and the fence. Here we ran and we turned off in front of the house and we turned left on a ridge or field, he says.

Swished money – bought pizza

After the murder, the 19-year-old had money swished to him. SEK 1,000, which he used to buy pizza for himself and his 15-year-old friend, among other things.

Afterwards, the issue of money and where and when the money should be handed over was discussed.

It is unclear how much money would be paid out, according to the investigation.

Only hours after the murder of the mother, the 19-year-old and the 15-year-old received instructions to go on to Skogås in southern Stockholm.

They never got there.

Instead, the police arrested them on the morning of September 7.