Players believe Destiny 3 has always been the answer to Destiny 2’s crisis: “bloated and lacking in content”

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Destiny 2 is currently in crisis. After the layoffs at Bungie and the decline in popularity, players have started talking about how the loot shooter can be successful again. Many agree that Destiny 3 could be the solution to the game’s problems.

These are the problems with Destiny 2: At the end of October, business problems at Sony’s own development studio Bungie came into public focus.

  • Bungie had to lay off 8% of its employees “due to a sharp decline in popularity.”
  • These included employees from communications, PR, support and sound design, such as community manager Liana Ruppert and the extremely popular Destiny song writer Michael Salvatori.
  • In addition, the new PvP strike and security team was also reduced in size as a result of the layoffs.

    • After it was leaked from reliable insider sources that the upcoming expansion “The Final Form” would also have to be postponed by several months, many players canceled their pre-orders in frustration.

    Given the poor development and the unclear statement from Bungie, players are now thinking about possible solutions to get Destiny back on track. Although the loot shooter is in crisis, some players continue to show their solidarity and willingness to find solutions.

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    Is Destiny 3 the lifeline for fate?

    The idea of ​​Destiny 3 as a lifeline for the franchise is widespread in the community. Players believe a complete fresh start that solves Destiny 2’s problems could be the key to reviving interest and excitement.

    Player Edward Tracer says: “Destiny 2 feels bloated and lacking in content.” The season model is worn out, activities feel too similar and that’s why it’s time for a reset in the form of Destiny 3.

    Other players also agree with his opinion and for the following reasons:

  • Point 1: The current story progression of the game doesn’t look good
  • New players in particular cannot follow the story in a meaningful way. Firstly, because they don’t know what to do next. On the other hand, because essential parts of the story are currently no longer playable and they therefore have no idea what they are fighting for.
  • Point 2: Recycling weapons and destinations
  • Although Bungie tried to largely undo the sunsetting of weapons and destinations in Destiny 2 and gradually brought some of that content back into the game, many players found this to be too much recycling. Especially since they didn’t want this content to be a replacement for new content. You want to “play the entire game you paid for.”
  • Point 3: A new game engine
  • Destiny 2 is often plagued by errors and strange bugs. These have always existed, but their number has increased significantly in recent months. In addition, there are now regular DDoS attacks on the servers, which lead to error codes and drastically affect the gaming experience. Bungie has already partially renewed its engine under the hood, improving not only the lighting effects but also performance, but it often doesn’t feel like it in the game.
  • Point 4: The longing for something new
  • The old model of Destiny 2 seems too worn out for players who have been there for a long time. They want a new saga, new locations, new enemies and above all new worlds to explore including new weapons.

    • In addition, it is feared that Bungie will continue to release content for Destiny 2 at exactly the same pace as before and that this will not change anything. All problems will still be there.

    “The most obvious reset we need now”

    These are the opinions about Destiny 3: A majority of players believe that a full reboot in the form of Destiny 3 is necessary to address the many issues currently plaguing Destiny 2.

    Paul Tassi from Forbes writes about his article via Twitter:

    Bungie needs a break from the endless content delivery, and it seems like players need that break just as badly, if they haven’t already forced one themselves. I don’t see how you keep the same cycle and anything changes. Expenses remain the same, participation and income continue to fall.

    Paul Tassi from Forbes

    xho sees parallels in Destiny 2 with The Division 2 and thinks: “Destiny 3 has to happen or the franchise is over. If we look at another currently ‘stalled’ game (which was once a major competitor to Destiny, please note), namely The Division 2, the studio behind it recently announced that The Division 3 is in the works. So why can’t Bungie revive Destiny with Destiny 3?”

    Player James Tomlinson writes: “I would be happy if there was a Destiny 3. Destiny 2 just became too confusing as the economies kept changing, the grind got worse over time, and the PvP section seemed to be more and more neglected. I wouldn’t even mind a soft reboot that would reinvent the systems and game world.”

    Destiny 2 is probably on the way to a “Destiny universe”

    On the other hand, there are also players who believe that Destiny 2 still has the potential to recover if targeted improvements and adjustments are made.

    The well-known Destiny streamer Aztecross says:

    The difference is that previous delays did not involve massive layoffs. I’m sure many of us are okay with waiting for The Final Form to be as good as it can be. […]

    is the opinion of the well-known Destiny streamer Aztecross

    German Destiny player x T1duS x also thinks: “A Destiny 3 would solve nothing to deliver a game close to the experience of Destiny 2, with additional great content and quality improvements it takes years and then Bungie has no income. […] Destiny 2 was much worse than Destiny 1 and it took years to fix that.”

    tinytigerxo doesn’t believe in Destiny 3 either, commenting: “Destiny 3 won’t happen until [Bungie] regains the trust of his players. Because even if they release it, people will just expect the same thing that happens with Destiny 2. ‘The Finale Form’ needs to be at the top of its game in terms of quality and content if they are ever to regain that trust.”

    However, Dark Tetrad- Revenge(r) Cat has very different thoughts on the matter: “I often hear/read people asking, ‘What can be done to save/fix Destiny 2?’ But to me it’s becoming increasingly clear that the question people should be asking is, ‘What can be done to save/fix Destiny (the franchise)?'”

    Destiny 3 has been a topic in the community for a long time because they primarily criticize the technical condition of Destiny 2:

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    Destiny 3 could take years to complete

    This is another hurdle to consider: Likewise, some players in the discussion pointed out that creating Destiny 3 will be a long process that could take years.

    Bungie has to put a lot of effort into planning, design and execution to ensure the game meets players’ expectations.

    During this phase, they would potentially have no revenue from Destiny as resources and personnel would be focused on developing the new title. It is also not yet clear whether Bungie’s latest game “Marathon” could fill this gap financially.

    So without the regular revenue from Destiny 2 and other projects, it could be difficult to finance Destiny 3’s development.

    Destiny 1 and 2 are supposed to be one universe

    This variant is more likely: Bungie had already announced in June 2022 that after “The Final Form” they wanted to take new paths so that more players could more easily grasp and understand future game worlds.

    This is also the reason why Luke Smiths, Bungie’s mastermind for Destiny, currently has little to do directly with Destiny 2, as he himself revealed in a podcast.

    He and his long-time producing partner Mark Noseworthy are responsible for expanding the Destiny brand. Her mission for the future is “to think about making Destiny a universe that […] exists and continues beyond a single MMO project.”

    As Luke Smith explained at the time, the future for Destiny 2 was what had become increasingly clear since the introduction of the Content Vault in Destiny 2:

    I think Destiny 2 is Destiny. The design of Destiny 1 and 2.

    said Luke Smith on the AIAS Game Maker’s Notebook Podcast

    And this effort to slowly bring the content from Destiny 1 and 2 together could also be seen in the last few seasons as Bungie continuously transferred content from Destiny 1 to Destiny 2. Most recently also the raids “Crota’s End” and “Königsfall”.

    A Destiny universe would also appeal to the player Saint_Victorious:

    I don’t want a Destiny 3. I want a complete Destiny that creates a consistent and coherent storyline through all campaigns. This would then be the launching pad for all future narratives in the Destiny universe.

    writes Destiny player Saint_Victorious via Reddit

    With all the comments, it’s clear that players want Bungie to take their concerns and wishes into account and improve the game. It also seems that few want to give up on fate completely.

    What would it take for you to like Destiny 2 again and come back? Do you think a fresh start is necessary to get the game back on the right track? Or do you prefer the idea of ​​a large Destiny universe that offers all the content and also gives you the opportunity to discover the rest of the solar system?

    Feel free to tell the community and us in the comments.

    Other numbers, like Luis Lachegga’s, are currently in free fall: Bungie is banning the largest German Twitch streamer for Destiny 2 – he is losing 80% of his viewers

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