It does indeed not happen too often that the Zenderstad drafts club in IJsselstein plays drafts against the number five in the world. “He’s really, really good,” he says. As well as: “Only when I was little could I beat him.” Which doesn’t mean they just let him win, of course. “I practiced a lot online beforehand”, sounds from behind one of the checkerboards. “And I don’t know, maybe he’ll roll me up right away.”