Ruben was trained as a sports scientist and graduated in psychomotor therapy. “You work with people with psychological problems from the point of view of movement and the body. It’s not that I now combine that with my artistry. But I do notice that being busy with my hands and my body and creating also gives me a kind of mental health. I notice in my work that working on something can be healing in a certain way. Especially if you’re in your head a lot and have problems, it can be nice to be involved with something with all your senses. , you have to concentrate well, otherwise you can hurt yourself. I think it’s something that can do people good.”